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مشاهدة النسخة كاملة : نقاشات الأنمي تقرير عن فلم Street Fighter Alpha + وصلة للفلم



Danger_Scorpion
10-10-2005, 10:43 AM
السلام عليكم اليوم نتكلم عن الفلم الرهيب Street Fighter Alpha والذي يعد من اقوى الافلام القتالية والذي يجسد احدى اقوى العاب القتال باالعاب الفيديو .
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000542DE.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


القصة


يتحدث الفلم عن مقاتل الشوارع ريو الذي فاز على زعيم العصابات التايوانية ساجات وكيف ان طاقة شريرة غريبة تحاول السيطرة عليه ( دارك هادو) وهو بدوره يجب ان يقاومها كي لا يقع تحت رحمتها ويصبح مقاتل شرير وفي سبيل ذلك عليه التغلب على العديد من المقاتلين بعد ان قرر عدم المشاركة في الدورة القتالية
لكنه يكون في حيرة من امره بسب عدم تحكمه بتلك الطاقة التي تاتيه فجاة , ايضا مشكلة محيرة اخرى ظهور ذلك الولد الصغير المدعو شون الذي يدعى بانه شقيق ريو الصغير والاصعب من ذلك انه سيضطر الى مواجهته في قتال الشوارع كي ينقذ نفسه من تلك الطاقة الشريرة بعد وقوع اخيه تحت سيطرة البروفيسور سادلر حيث دمجه بجسم مقاتل اخترعه ووضعه به جميع تقنيات المقاتلين وكانت خطته ان يدخل ريو وذلك المقاتل مع بعضهما كي يضطر ريو الى تحرير اخيه عبر اطلاق طاقة الدارك هاود لكن لم ينتبه احد الى ان البروفيسور كان يمتص تلك الطاقة بنفس الوقتت !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ياترى هل سينجح ريو بتحرير اخيه والتحرر من تلك الطاقة المظلمة ؟
يذهب الاصدقاء الى الجزيرة التي يوجد بها مختبر البروفيسور سادلر ويواجهونه هناك الا انهم يفقدون بعض الاصدقاء بسبب قوة ذلك المخلوق الذي اخترعه سادلر ودمج فيه اخ ريو الصغير الا ان ريو يستطيع تحرير اخيه بواسطة ضربة الدارك هادو ويدمر المخلوق البشع الا ان البروفيسور خطط لذلك تماما واستطاع ان يجمع الطاقة عبر انابيب غريبة وتحول الى مقاتل خارق وواجه ريو في معركة كبيرة الا ان ريو استطاع ان يفوز عليه ويدمره واستطاع تحرير اخيه الصغير من قبضته والتحرر من طاقة الدارك هادو.



شخصيات الفلم


1- البطل ريو>>>>>>>>>

http://www.absoluteanime.com/street_fighter/_ryu.jpg (http://www.absoluteanime.com/street_fighter/ryu.jpg)

وهو بطل الفلم كما ذكرنا ويواجه تحديات كبيرة بالفلم وهي التخلص من طاقة الدارك هادو وتحرير اخيه من قبضة البروفيسور سادلر وهو شخصية هادئه غير متسرع وطيب القلب الا انه في القتال ووقت الغضب
انسان اخر .



2-شن لي>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.absoluteanime.com/street_fighter/_chun-li.jpg (http://www.absoluteanime.com/street_fighter/chun-li.jpg)


وهي عميلة في الشرطة اليابانية تحقق في اعمال البروفيسور سادلر وايضا تساعد ريو في احداث الفلم
وهي شخصية لطيفة وطيبة وفي اغلب احداث الفلم تقف مع ريو وتساعده في تذكر نفسه كلما تاتيه طاقة الدارك هادو .




3-كين ماسترز>>>>>>> http://www.absoluteanime.com/street_fighter/_ken.jpg (http://www.absoluteanime.com/street_fighter/ken.jpg)

وهو اعز اصدقاء ريو وهو شخصية طيبة يساعد ريو في مهمته لانقاذ اخيه وللتخلص من الطاقة الشريرة
خبير بالقتال وطبعه هادىء وهو يضفي بعض المرح على جو الفلم يتعرض لاصابات خطيرة عندما يواجه الوحش الذي اخترعه البروفيسور سادلر.





4-شون>>>>>>>>> http://www.slateman.net/sf/art/sfalphamovie/portraits/color_shun.jpg

وهو شقيق ريو الصغير يظهر في الفلم وهو متحمس للقتال يحاول اقناع ريو بانه شقيقه يقع في قبضة البروفيسور سادلر بعدما تدمر قاعة البطولة السرية لمقاتلي الشوارع ويسيطر عليه عبر دمجه في جسد مقاتل شرير وهو شخصية طيبة الا انه متحمس للقتال دائما لا يفكر كثيرا لانه صغير.





5-روز>>>>>>>> http://www.slateman.net/sf/art/sfa3/series2/SFA3_Rose.jpg


وهي شخصية غريبة بعض الشيء تاتي لريو في اوهامه وتقول له ان قلبه قد ضل طريقه شخصية غامضة .



6-كيي>>>>>>>> http://www.slateman.net/sf/art/sfalphamovie/sketches/kei.jpg

وهي فتاة صغيرة تود ان تصبح مثل ريو فهي معجبة به وايضا امنيتها ان تصبح مقاتلت شوار طيبة
شخصية طيبة الا انها تفتقر للخبرة في مواجهة المشاكل لانها صغيرة السن.



7-اكوما>>>>>>> http://www.absoluteanime.com/street_fighter/_akuma.jpg (http://www.absoluteanime.com/street_fighter/akuma.jpg)

من منا لايعرف هذه الشخصية هو مقاتل شوارع طيب الا ان قوة الدارك هادو سيطرت عليه واصبح شريرا وهو قوي جدا وربما اقوى شخصية في ستريت فايتر ليس له دور كبير بالفلم يذهب اليه ريو ليساله عن كيفية التخلص من الطاقة , وغالبا ما يردد "عندما اقاتل اقاتل وحيدا" هو شخصية شريرة كما ذكرنا وقوية .


8-زانغيف>>>>> http://www.absoluteanime.com/street_fighter/_zangief.gif (http://www.absoluteanime.com/street_fighter/zangief.gif)

مقاتل شوارع ظهر في البطولة وهو مقاتل شرير لا يعرف الرحمة دوره ليس كبيرا بالفلم يواجه شون في مباراة قوية.


9-فيغا>>>>>> http://www.absoluteanime.com/street_fighter/vega.gif

مقاتل شوارع شرير يظهر في البطولى الاولى لمقاتلي الشوارع وهو شخصية شريرة ومقاتل شرس ويستعمل في قتاله القبضة التي تظهر في يده وهي حاده مثل السكاكين.



10-البروفيسور سادلر>>> http://img225.exs.cx/img225/46/sadler6dy.jpg

وهو الشرير الاكبر في الفلم يحالو السيطرة على طاقة الدارك هادو واخذها من ريو وفي سبيل تحقيق ذلك يقوم باجبار ريو بمواجهة اخيه الصغير بعد تحويله الى شرير وهو شخصية شريرة همه الوحيد تجميع القوة والشر .




الى هنا اعزائي اكون قد انهيت هذا التقرير انشالله اذا كان شيء ناقص في الشخصيات فانا ركزت على الشخصيات الاشهرفي ستريت فايتر والبارزة في الفلم نفسه.

الى اللقاء في مواضيع اخرى :biggthump

Danger_Scorpion
10-10-2005, 10:49 AM
انشالله يكون عنا وصلة بعد الانتهاء من تحميل الفلم على النت بترجمة عربية وصورة واضحة.

والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته.

cantona222
10-10-2005, 10:51 AM
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته.

شكرا اخوي على الموضوع ....... انا من عشاق لعبة ستريت فايتر على ايام السوبر ننتندو :) بس ما شفت الانمي مالها. كم فلم نزلها. و هل لها مسلسل؟
ممكن و صلة الفلم..
شكرا.

Twelve
10-10-2005, 11:15 AM
SORRY FOR WRITING IN ENGLISH (NEXT TIME I WRITE IN ARABIC

I didn't like the movei because it concentrated A LOT on Ryu & it the fights were a bit dull, but it was fun a little.
Capcom had a say on this anime:
The way Ryu fights & such in this movie is how he would do it in 'real life', so what Ryu does in the movie is what he actually does 'gameplay' wise.

Also I'm surprised you have no knowledge of Rose. Rose in this movie is different than what her official Bio states.
Who is Rose (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_%28video_game_character%29)

Also I don't think Akuma is evil, he just doesn't like ppl.
Also the island Akuma fights Ryu on is his stage in Street Fighter Alpha 2

This movie needed more Dan Hibiki ;_;

Good stuff pal!

H-Hunter
10-10-2005, 03:09 PM
السلام عليكم،

تقرير حلو وجميل يعطيك العافية أخوي.

لدي بعض الملاحظات بالنسبة لشخصيات المسلسل:

شن-لي لا تعمل في الشرطة اليابانية بل في الانتربول وهي عموما صينية وليست يابانية

الفتاة التي تحاول أن تقلد ريو وتصبح مثله اسمها ساكورا وليس كيي

كين والذي يعتبر من الشخصيات المفضلة لدي ليس شخصا هادئا بل بالعكس، هو كثير الحركة وكثير الكلام بعكس شخصية ريو الهادئة.

أعتقد أن أكوما من الشخصيات الشريرة بالمسلسل فقد قام بقتل معلمه وقام كذلك بقتل أخيه (معلم ريو و كين) ومصادري في ذلك من المانجا وعلى العموم أنا أرى أن هناك الكثير من التعتيم على شخصية أكوما في الأنيمي فهو لم يظهر في الفلم الأول لستريت فايتر كما أنهم لم يتعرضوا له في المسلسل. أما فلم ألفا فكما تعلمون، كان ظهوره بسيطا جدا.

شكرا مرة أخرى على الموضوع

SALM0RE
10-10-2005, 03:47 PM
انه الصراحة ما عجبني الفليم ... كأن الفليم هو قصة حياة ryu مش street fighter .... والقصة ماتصلح للعبة اصلا :12:

لا وفي شخصيات مهمة في العبة و في الفليم ولا شيء مثل dan يعني birde يغلب dan ....dan اهم و اقوى و guy و rolento ولا سوا شيء ....ليش حاطينهم في الفليم ؟

و اخوي الشخصية رقم 6 اسمها sakura .

ولله انه عندي street fighter 2 : the movie افضل .

مشكوور على الموضوع من زمان وانه ابغي اتكلم عن الفليم .

Danger_Scorpion
10-10-2005, 05:07 PM
SALMORE:-

انا اوافقك على ما ذكرته والصراحة كنت متوقع اكثر من ذلك بالفلم قبل مشاهدته لكن تبقى المعارك جميلة بالرغم من ان القصة تدور فقط عن ريو.

H-Hunter:-

بارك الله فيك على المدح ومشكور على المعلومات انا كنت ظانن انو شن لي يا بانية لان احداث الفلم اصلا تدور في اليابان مكشور على التصليح:biggthump

Twelve:-

بارك الله فيك على الرد وما في مانع تكتب بالانجليزي ومشكور على المرور فقط اريد ان اعرف لماذا تعتبر المقاتل اوكوما غير شرير ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
شيء اخر مشكور على المعلومات عن سوزي :biggthump

cantona222:-

مشكور اخي على الاطراء وانشالله ببعتلك وصلة الفلم على الخاص لانو الظاهر رح الطول القصة عبر الميغا اب لاود لذلك سارسل لك على الخاص الرابط للموقع الذي انزلته منه كي لا يعتبر نقل.


اخيرا اي واحد يبي وصلة الفلم يبعتلي على الخاص وانا بعطي اياها ومشكورين على الردود.

meyrin
11-10-2005, 10:48 AM
السلام عليكم اخي barberian
ماشاء الله عليك تقرير رائع ودايما مواضيعك رائعة تسلم

;)

SUPER HUNTER
11-10-2005, 12:05 PM
مشكور اخوي على التقرير الجميل :biggthump

ashraf_2003
11-10-2005, 09:41 PM
الموضع حلو :)
الصراحة ما احب ستريت فايتر:أفكر:

Danger_Scorpion
11-10-2005, 11:09 PM
مريم ديار :- شكرا على الاطراء :biggthump

SUPER HUNTER :- مشكور على ردك اخي

ashraf_2003 :- مشكور اخي ومو مهم انك ما تحب ستريت فايتر المهم انك نولرت الموضوع بمشاركتك :biggthump :biggthump :biggthump :biggthump :biggthump


ومشكورين كل الي ردو وبارك الله في همتكم :D :D

Twelve
12-10-2005, 08:07 AM
OK again SORRY for writing in English (long story
The reason I believe Akuma is NOT evil is because he only LOOKS evil when fights. In reality he's an OK guy, he will help people as long as they don't make him angry. When he fights he doesn't go easy on people unless he chooses so (like when he fought Gen in Street Fighter Alpha 2) which is what a lot of people mistake about Akuma for being evil.

Better read this it explains what I mean & say:

AKUMA (GOUKI in Japan)

Height: 178cm
Weight: 80kg
BWH sizes: B118, W84, H86
Blood type: Unknown
Birthplace: Unknown
Special Skill: Unknown
Likes: Unknown
Dislikes: Unknown
Fighting Style: Ansatsuken


Street Fighter 1: He wasn't in the actual game, but behind the scenes, he
was doing things. Akuma challenged, fought, and killed his brother,
Gouken, while Ryu was away at the first Street Fighter tournament.
Witnessing the battle was Gouken's daughter, and by the end of the battle,
one of Gouken's students, Ken, had arrived, and witnessed Akuma pulling off
the killing blow. Akuma, victorious, then leaves to go back to his island
of Gokuentou. [Official]


Street Fighter Alpha 2: Gouken's student, Ryu, has tracked Akuma down, and
challenges Akuma as a fighter. Akuma, always looking for worthy foes,
tests Ryu's mettle at his island, Gokuento. Akuma is very impressed by
Ryu's skill, and tells Ryu about the Satsu no Hadou power within Ryu. He
wants that power to awaken within Ryu, and tells Ryu that once it does, Ryu
should seek Akuma out again so they could have a real match [Official].
Akuma then forcefully slams his fist into the ground, and the island of
Gokuentou sinks into the sea, with Ryu escaping just in time [Conjecture
from Ryu's SFA2 ending].

One day, an old man named Gen found Akuma, and challenged him. Akuma
used the Shun Goku Satsu on Gen, but Gen somehow managed to survive it!
Gen then did his his Zan-ei on Akuma but Akuma survived. As the battle
goes on, Akuma realized that Gen was sick and the two set apart. Neither
one won the battle. Gen survived the Shungokusatsu because he emptied his
spirit, heart and mind (which makes him immune from the past sins and
dragged to hell aspect) [Official].


Street Fighter Alpha 3: Akuma spent SFA3 looking for a worthy challenger.
He found Gen, once again, by the end of SFA3. Gen really is persistent,
and wants to finally end things and have a match to the death. He tells
Akuma that Akuma won't win, again (Gen considers Akuma the winner of the
last match because Akuma chose to 'spare' Gen by withdrawing when he saw
that Gen was sick). Capcom hasn't stated who won the final battle, though
Gen's ending shows that Gen won it, whereas Akuma's ending just shows the
two meeting again, finally (course, Gen's ending could also be interpreted
as him having KILLED Akuma, which obviously didn't happen). After winning
the battle, Gen decided to spare Akuma and just give up, finally, on
finding an opponent worthy of a deathmatch. He states that Akuma was the
only one worthy of such a battle, but now that the battle was over, there
is no more reason for Gen to use his fighting style, any longer [Conjecture
based off in-game storyline].


Street Fighter 2: Akuma has heard about the Street Fighter 2 tournament.
However, he doesn't sign up for it. When the final championship of the
match came with someone against the host of the tournament and leader of
Shadaloo, M. Bison (Capcom hasn't stated who), Akuma decided to randomly
jump in and test just how powerful this M. Bison was. When Akuma
approached M. Bison, M. Bison was caught off guard. Akuma declared that
Bison was pathetic, because he had allowed himself to be consumed by his
own shadow, as opposed to Akuma, who had mastered his own fighting style
through sheer training alone. Akuma declares that the master of the fist
will always win over one possessed by his own shadow, and attacked M. Bison
[Akuma's SF2 Revival ending]. I'm pretty positive Akuma was talking about
Psycho Power when he said that to Bison, because in Street Fighter Alpha 3,
Akuma calls Bison weak for not relying solely on his fists (and having to
rely on Psycho Power, instead). Since Psycho Power relies on negative
energy (there's also the fact that Bison is the dark side of his own soul,
since Rose is the light half), that probably is what represents Bison being
consumed by his own shadow. As for when Akuma attacked Bison in SF2, it
also hasn't been stated by Capcom whether this happened before whoever was
set to fight Bison fought him and won, or after, though in the game, it
happens before (in actuality though, I imagine it was probably after, since
that allows for everyone else's SF2 endings to take place, and since Capcom
considers most SF2 characters resolved as shown by them not bringing most
SF2 characters over to SF3, well... their endings probably all took place,
then). At any rate, Akuma randomly jumped in (surprising the heck out of
M. Bison), then pulled off the Shun Goku Satsu on Bison which killed M.
Bison. Hmm. That wasn't so tough [Official].


Street Fighter 3 Double Impact: Akuma develops "the ultimate technique",
Kongou-kokuretsuzan. It is so powerful that it splits an entire mountain,
Ayers Rock, in half! [Akuma's SF3DI ending]. Considering that he's a
secret character, I'm pretty sure he didn't register and sign up for the
tournament, just like how he didn't sign up for the SF2 tournament.


Street Fighter 3 Third Strike: Oro has been sensing some powerful ki for
some time. He finally tracks it down and finds Akuma! Out of curiousity
to see how powerful each other is, they fight [Official]. Third Strike
dialogue indicates that the fight was more just to see each others'
strength than anything serious, so there probably was no death matching.

Akuma is still training. He has developed himself so much that he is now
powerful enough to do inhuman acts, such as stay deep under the ocean.
While training there, he uses the Tenshoukairekijin to destroy a sunken
ship. Observed by a submarine, the crew members are shocked. The move is
so powerful that it causes the sunken ship to be blasted to the surface,
causing chaos even for another ship on the water [Akuma's SF3TS ending].


Where Is He Now: As shown by SF3 dialogue, Akuma still waits for Ryu to
get better to become a worthy match (even though officially, Ryu has since
then given up Satsu no Hadou, he still is improving and still has
potential) or to find a worthy match out there. Akuma himself is always
training, also [Conjecture based off in-game storyline].


Miscellaneous Facts and Notes

Surprise! Akuma's fighting style is NOT shotokan. He's an Ansatsuken
fighter (ditto for Ken and Ryu, except they use a style of Ansatsuken
that's been toned down in terms of lethal killingness). Shotokan is a
mistranslation by Capcom of America, and in fact the 'shoto-scrubs' as some
people like to call them fight nothing like the real-life style of Shotokan
(or at least, 100% like shotokan. See below). Just like how Blanka fights
nothing like Capoeira. Strange Capcom of America. They probably censored
it from Ansatsuken because heaven forbid that a fighting style is actually
implied to be able to, GASP, KILL people!!! Oh, won't someone PLEASE think
of the children!?

Note from Saiki: Both Gouki and Gen use Ansatsuken. Gouki uses
Ansatsuken but with more karate, judo, taekwondo and koppo elements to it.
Gen actually should have more styles but I guess it'd be too hard to put it
all into the game. I can't remember all of them but I think it was Mantis,
Crane, Tiger, Bear, err, can't remember the rest. Ryu tand Ken use a toned
down version that Gouken taught them that isn't designed to kill, unlike
Gen's and Akuma's style.

Twelve
12-10-2005, 08:09 AM
Continued, yes there's more


Gouki's ansatsukan having karate, judo, and taekwondo is exact
statement from All About Street Fighter Zero 3, though Saiki isn't exactly
sure where he got Koppo from. The type of karate in that ansatsukan was
not specified. However, according to Eric Musashi, several of Ryu and
Ken's normal attacks and stances do in fact resemble shotokan, so it seems
a safe bet to assume that some of that karate in their ansatsukan is
shotokan, after all.

Technically, Ansatsukan should probably be considered more a level of
achievement than an actual fighting style, then. In addition to all of the
above mentioned facts, it's stated in All About Capcom for Gen that "he has
developed his Chinese Kempo until it has reached the stage of being an
Ansatsukan". All this implies that Ansatsukan can consist of any martial
art and is more about the power you've developed your style to. ...Capcom
sure knows how to be confusing, sometimes.

Akuma's brother is Gouken. His master (as well as Gouken's master) was
Goutetsu. You can see Gouken and Goutetsu in Akuma's SFA1 ending.
Goutetsu's the older more wrinkly looking one. Akuma fought and killed
Gouken while Ryu was fighting in the SF1 tournament. He fought and killed
Goutetsu, too.

Akuma being Gouken's brother technically makes him Ryu's Uncle-in-law
since Gouken adopted Ryu while Ryu was a baby. Not that anyone, including
Capcom, seems to really care, though. :P

Akuma and Ryu (and probably Ken, too) have met before SFA2 (Akuma is
Ryu's master's brother, after all), though the dialogue in the Japanese
version (and the US version, though the Japanese version is a lot more
clear) shows that they haven't seen each other in a while (of course, a guy
like Akuma doesn't socialize often).

This is probably the time Ryu and Ken first met Akuma. According to a
Japanese gaming mook (which are typically really trustworthy, either
because Japanese magazines and books pay more attention to canon than US
ones or because they simply actually have access to the original creators
since they're both... well, Japanese), Gouki visited Gouken back when Ryu
and Ken were still 'hatchlings'. Gouki stated that he was the true heir to
Ansatsuken, then Gouken stated that Gouki corrupted his 'Hadou no
Chikara.' Young Ryu and Ken watched the fight, believing Gouken would win,
and the match ended with Gouken's final blow, leaving Gouki sprawling on
the ground. Then Gouki said something about how they MUST come to blows
again 'in this lifetime'. Gouken looks on, then said "When that man's
power goes beyond mine, the great disaster you both (Ryu and Ken) must face
with your own power... the power which I will pass on to you... "Wa ga ken
no Subete o (All that is what my fist is), Hadou no Chikara o! (The power
of the Hadou!)." This is way before Gouki comes back to kill Gouken, by
the way.

Goutetsu, who invented the arts of Hado, Shoryu, Tatsumaki, and
Shungokusatsu, taught the Shun Goku Satsu (Instant Hell Murder) to both
Akuma and Gouken. Gouken, however, disliked killing and didn't teach it to
Ken or Ryu, instead teaching them a toned down version of Ansatsuken.
Capcom of USA changed the storyline and stated that Goutetsu hid away the
secrets of the Shun Goku Satsu, but that's not true.

Akuma uses satsu no hadou. It is unclear if Goutetsu used it or not,
though. Gouken, meanwhile, developed a completely different art from
Goutetsu and Akuma's. While it looks similar, the method used to draw ki
is completely different. Capcom hasn't stated how it's different, though.

Ryu didn't see Gouken battle his brother Akuma. Gouken's daughter saw
it, but she disappeared after that. Gouken's daughter has no official name
(though Ryu and Ken called her 'Little Miss'). There are two official arts
of her, though they differ greatly from each other so it's hard to tell
which one's supposed to be correct. Ken also arrived near the end of the
battle and was able to witness it. The fact that Gouken had a daughter
seems to have been forgotten by Capcom and thus will probably never
resurface (the official arts of her come from ooooooold official sources
and you can't find the fact that Gouken has a daughter except in really old
sources, too. Capcom probably didn't even finalize what she is supposed to
look like, considering that the two official arts of her look completely
different from each other).

The 2 Versions of Gouken's daughter:

Imagine Yuri with hair like Mai's (well, a bit longer) and wears a yellow
gi. Give her an elbow pad. Curl the pants up to her knees.

Imagine Vice with Black/Blue hair. Give her a white gi. Curl her pants to
her knees and give her the same beads Gouki has. She never made it past the
story and sketches.

From AAC: This next info is extremely vague, but under Ken's section
it mentions him being an eyewitness to Gouken and Gouki's battle, and also
he sees a "young" one there too, and in parentheses it goes on to say roughly
"who obtained a reputation previously for the fighting school?" Kinda vague
like I said, but Capcom's possibly still remembering Gouken's long lost
daughter (AKA 'Ojou-san').

According to that mook, Gouki killed Goutetsu just as Goutetsu was
about to do a Messatsu Go Hadou, because from the text, he had cupped his
hands and countless flames were being formed. Goutetsu died with a smile
on his face, most likely because it was the greatest battle of his life (or
possibly because most teachers love to see their students surpass them).
Gouki took the beads off of Goutetsu and wore them for his own. This was
all witnessed by Gouken.

Goutetsu was killed by the Shungokusatsu (Saiki confirms this). How
Gouken was killed is unknown. Goutetsu was killed 20 years prior to the
Alpha series, by the way.

According to Roland, the mook also stated that Vega/M. Bison once
visited Gouken, looking for the heir of Ansatsuken. In the process, Gouken
was thrashed (but not killed, of course). Besides mooks being generally
very trustworthy, originally, back during the times of SF2 coming out,
Vega/M. Bison was the one that killed Gouken. This later got retroactively
changed to Akuma doing it (probably when Akuma was designed). Most likely,
Capcom decided that, instead of entirely retroactively deleting it, to edit
it into Vega/M. Bison just beating the heck out of Gouken, instead (From
Saiki, again).

Goutetsu was murdered 20 years before SSF2X, not the Zero/Alpha series.
Gouki's mentioned to be around 48 in SSF2X, so he's around 28 when he
kills Goutetsu.

Twelve
12-10-2005, 08:11 AM
.....and more...................
[left]
What happens during the shungokusatsu is that they go to hell. The
demons in hell will attack the person even if they're sin free or not.
They're demons, they'll go at anything. But with evil characters, their
past sins will also haunt on top of the demons attacking them for that
split second. Gen survives this because he empties his spirit, heart and
mind. "Onore wo mu ni suru". "Mu" means emptiness, nothingness. One of the
reasons why Gouken has the kanji "Mu" on his back. It's really not about
how strong the person is but how tuned and focused they are with their mind
and soul.

The user is in danger during the Shun Goku Satsu, too, if he isn't
prepared. Both the user and the target go to hell. Canonwise, Ryu and
Sakura have never done the Shun Goku Satsu.

Evil Intent is a mistranslation. It's supposed to be Killing Intent.
There's a significant difference regarding the symbolicry of Akuma and
Ryu's relationship if you know this. Capcom of USA actually correctly
translates it in Street Fighter 3. There, it's called Murderous Intent
(Killing intent, murderous intent... eh, same thing).

Akuma doesn't become Shin Akuma. Akuma IS Shin Akuma, except that he
holds back punches and uses only a small percent of his power. He does
this because he doesn't want to unnecessarily kill anyone who he feels
aren't out to kill him in the first place. Note that the Shin Akuma in
Capcom VS SNK 2 (besides that game not being canon), where Akuma becomes
Shin Akuma because he absorbs Orochi power or so, is a different type of
Shin Akuma. The Japanese character for Shin is different for him.

Gouken had the character "Mu" which means "nothing", "naught" on his
back. Akuma has the character for "Heaven" on his back, but this can also
be interpreted as "Beyond human" which is most likely the correct
interpretation. According to some Japanese myths, the bearer of this
symbol is said to be immortal. Capcom of America used the literal
translation for it, "Ten", for SFA3.

Akuma himself is a human being and NOT possessed by a demon. That was
something Capcom of USA made up (they changed LOTS of things for Akuma).
Akuma, however, has attained 'Beyond human' status because of his sheer
training and drive for power (to the point where he gives into things like
Satsu no Hadou). In the SF universe, one can achieve great abilities
beyond human (such as staying in deep sea or causing an island to collapse
with a punch) through sheer training and focus. I believe this is why some
people refer to him as a demon. He may or may not have become a demon,
himself, but I'm inclined to believe that he hasn't, personally, and the
whole referal to him as a demon is mostly symbollic/metaphoric.

The Kanji letter "Ki" in Gouki`s name doesn't actually mean "ghost" or
"demon". it means "Oni". Oni in Japanese is the imaginary monster that
looks like a horned human. In Japan it is also believed that human or
human’s spirit can turn to Oni when they’re extremely obsessed with hatred,
anger or vengeance.

If I recall correctly (and I'm pretty sure I am), Capcom of America
changed Gouki's name to Akuma to go along with how they changed his
storyline to make him possessed by a demon. When Capcom of America,
against Capcom of Japan's wishes (those two don't seem to get along),
changed Gouki's storyline to make him possessed by a demon, they also
changed his name to a more demonic one to suit that (Akuma means 'devil' in
Japanese). Oh, and they thought it better suited his appearance.
Basically, they changed it just to give Akuma a more demonic touch. At any
rate, I think Capcom of America by now has finally dropped the stupid demon
possession thing when they realized that Capcom of Japan were the guys
managing the true canon anyways. At least, I haven't seen it referenced at
all in any recent US sources/games of Street Fighter... Anyways, Akuma as
a name is more a representation of evil while Gouki as a name is more a
representation of sheer strength with negative energy (hatred, anger, or
vengeance isn't necessarily evil, after all). Crazy Capcom of America...

Akuma may be evil by our moral standards (he killed his teacher and
brother), but he is not evil by his own ethical code. His code is the
harsh code of the absolute warrior. He had no qualms killing his teacher
and brother because he killed them in fair one-on-one combat. It didn't
matter who they were; the field of battle does not distinguish between
friend or foe. And he only fights and kills those who call themselves
warriors and trains in fighting; he doesn't go around killing defenseless
normal people.

I've gotten conflicting reports about whether Akuma kills innocents or
not (either way, it's not on purpose). One is that while he doesn't go
around killing defenseless people deliberately, he won't go out of his way
to prevent them from getting hurt either. The rationale is that Akuma
follows the path of the Shura and is dedicated to his training first and
foremost. If you happen to be standing on that mountain he's about to
destroy, he's not going to stop and wait for you to get down because that
would delay his training, which to Akuma is first priority. This is why he
destroys that boat and submarine in his Third Strike ending. He didn't
mean to, but they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and he won't
stop his training just because they happened to be there. That explanation
was provided by Saiki. However, I've also been told by Rokesiph (Roland)
that in following the path of the truest warrior, Akuma makes sure not to
taint himself with the blood of innocents (IE, bystanders, etc). And after
some more research by various contributors, it is true that the boat he
destroys in his Third Strike ending is the abandoned one (the picture is
quite clear in AAC, which has pics of all the endings), and there is no
proof that the submarine and the boat that had people on it were destroyed
in the process. Roland explains the loss of communication from the
submarine as a typical power surge caused by Akuma's destruction of the
abandoned boat, but that doesn't mean the submarine was destroyed. All
About Capcom describes the ending as Akuma "caused panic to the people in
the Shinkai3000 (the submarine) when he performed the move on the sunken
ship", which isn't the wording that would be used had the submarine been
destroyed. So with evidence that the ship with actual people on it and the
submarine were not destroyed, there seems to be more evidence towards the
latter that Akuma doesn't kill innocents at all.[/quote]

Twelve
12-10-2005, 08:12 AM
OK this is THE LAST ONE, REALLY!


Capcom stated that Bushin is opposed to Akuma because he disrupts the
flow of nature, whatever the heck that means. I guess the in-game showing
of this would be when Guy says to Akuma in SFA3, "For the sake of Bushin,
listen to reason!" Dunno what Akuma does that disrupts nature, but I
suppose blowing up entire islands and mountains would possibly do something
like that. Supposedly, according to Roland, it's because in nature, things
never kill unless it is for survival. Most animals kill only either to
defend themselves or because they need to eat, for example. The only
things that kill for non-survival reasons are the more intelligent animals
(not just humans, contrary to what some misanthropists say. Dolphins will
randomly kill things and monkeys go to war, too!). Akuma, of course, goes
out of his way to find other warriors to challenge, and kill. Guy,
meanwhile, follows the path of Bushin, where he fights only to stop others
from being destructive.

Akuma's island is named Gokuentou. Him destroying it at the end of
SFA2 in Ryu's ending is most likely official, because his cave in SFA3 is
not on Gokuentou. His cave in SFA3 is Kiga Doukutsu, or Cave of Kiga.

He's actually once saved a kid that wandered into his SFA3 cave and
almost fell a cliff. There's also an official sketch of him apparently
selling/giving some fruit to a kid for some reason Oo Dunno what's up
with the fruit art, but him saving the kid in his cave is an actual
official fact.

Akuma seeks to awaken Satsu no Hadou in Ryu at the end of SFA2, because
he sees Ryu's potential and realizes that, powered by the killing intent,
Ryu will be a worthy opponent for him. For more and how this ends, see
Evil Ryu's bio.

I'm inclinded to believe that Akuma was heavily inspired by the EGM
April Fools joke made-up uber shotokan character, Sheng Long (who doesn't
actually exist. Sheng Long is Chinese for Dragon Punch, IE, Shoryuken ^_~
And of course Gouken is Ryu and Ken's master, not Sheng Long). Akuma,
besides also being an 'uber shotokan', jumping in and killing Bison out of
no where like Sheng Long does in EGM's faked pictures is a heavy indication
of this.

What's really funny is that after EGM posted the first Sheng Long
trick, Capcom of America actually contacted them and asked if it was true,
thinking that Capcom of Japan put Sheng Long into the game without telling
them. Silly Capcom of America and Capcom of Japan really don't trust each
other very much or tell each other very much information, it seems. Just
look at Poison's bio for crying out loud. Still, for Capcom of America to
fall for an April Fools joke about a Capcom game... hehe.

For a bit more on Oro and Akuma, see Oro's bio.

Gouki's SFA3 nickname is The fist of destruction which also slaughters
a demon/ogre. His nickname in 3rd Strike, X-Men vs SF, MvC2, and CvS is
something like, "The person who goes to extremes to master the fist". I've
read that his 3rd Strike nickname is "untamed fists of sin".

His SFA stage is obviously the Great Wall of China. His SFA2 stage, as
you know, is Gokuentou island (Japan), and his SFA3 stage is the Cave of
Kiga (Japan). Gokuentou translated (literally) to English is "Jail
Flame". A literal translation of Kiga would be "Ogre Fang", but doesn't
the ki in Gouki's name mean demon, or Oni? Demon Fang sounds right. Not
that SFEX is in discussion, but his EX stage is called "Hidden canyon
island".

السنور الدبه
12-10-2005, 08:28 PM
مشكووور والله يعطيك العافيه

Danger_Scorpion
14-10-2005, 07:17 PM
السلام عليكم مشكورين على الردود اخي Twelve صراحة بس شفت الرد كله بالانجليزي طفشت منو وما قريتو كله يا ريت تكتب بالعربي افضل مشكور على كل حال.

السنور الدبه لا شكر على واجب وحمدلله انو التقرير عجبك.

kaddam
18-10-2005, 03:00 PM
يا سلام علي التقرير الرائع
جميل والله بس انا افضل اللعبه علي الانمي

Danger_Scorpion
18-10-2005, 09:40 PM
يا سلام علي التقرير الرائع
جميل والله بس انا افضل اللعبه علي الانمي

بارك الله فيك على مدحك حبيبي.