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مشاهدة النسخة كاملة : الألعاب القتالية ماهي الأستراتيجية التي تستخدمها في العاب القتال



SALM0RE
23-10-2005, 01:29 AM
شباب انه فيني فضول بغيت اعرف شنوا استراتيجتيكم او طريقة لعبكم لالعاب القتال ؟ هل تعتمدون على الهجوم او الدفاع ؟ الحركات الخاصة ؟ او الكومبوا ؟ انه مثلا مااستخدم الكومبو وايد ..... و دائما احاول ان العب بالخصم يعني اسوي حركات مايتوقها الخصم ! و اهاجم الخصم في الحظة الي هو اهاجمني فيها .... و انه افضل ان اربط الحركات العادية بحركات السوبر :D و اكثر من الroll :) شنوا حركاتكم انتوا :33:

Recca
23-10-2005, 03:39 AM
depends on who u play against, for example, let's say Twelve and i play let's say hmmm Garou, and i noticed his habit of doing a justice hurricane after a down+A poke, i would be aware of it, thus i would punish him if he keeps doing it, this way he'll develop fear of repeating the same technique or combo, on the other hand Twelve might notice my love to jump in from far with a high D, so every time i jump from far he'd get the medcine for a jump D ready, thus making me get scared from doing it and forcing me to change my jump in style

fear also comes if u pound ur opponet with a damaging combo every time he messes up, having your opponets fear of getting caught or touched once is a good key to your victory, and makes you control the flow of the match

THE Kojima
23-10-2005, 04:07 AM
عامة احاول اني انوع ضرباتي ما بين ضربات علويه, وسط و سفلية
و ما اركز على نوع واحد و إلا بيكون صده سهل..low, middle, high
و اركز على الكمبوات اللي اول ضربة ترفع بها الخصم و باقي الضربات تكون في الهواء علشان ما يصدها.. و لما يضربني اهرب منه بضغط وراء بسرعة جداً و اول ما يخلص ضربته انطلق في ناحيته و امسكه..بالذات لو هو يلعب بشخصية اعرفها لأني باعرف متى بتخلص الحركة بالضبط..و لو اعطاني المجال اني اجلس بعيد منه اسوي الضربة القاضية.. و لو قدرت احاصره عند الجدار إما اني اسوي له كمبو العشر ضربات مثلاً..او ضربات متنوعة بحيث انه ما يتحرك من مكانه..

Twelve
23-10-2005, 08:39 AM
Depends on who I play with. God, now I gotta revela my secrets...............Say I pick Oro with SA I in SFIII 3S.
I'd mostly poke with Standing MK & counter air attacks with Crouching HP
For combos I'd get try to do these:
Standing MK-->HCB+HP
Crouching MK-->Charge D then U+P or 2P
I might start either with a Jumping HP if I wanted

Another combo I use is this:
Standing MP (1 Hit)-->QCF+MK I do this 3 times althgouh this doesn't work on every character

When it comes to using SA's I'd use the above combo as such:
Standing MP (1 Hit)-->QCF+MK (x2)-->Standing MPxxSA I, Jump & Press P
What happens is when i cancel the 3rd Standing MP I do a quick jump & press any Punch button to finish the combo, and when they get up, I slam them here and there.

ATM I haven't been using Oro's double jump a lot so I ain't THAT good with him yet.

One last thing is wake-up:
Say someone knocks down my Oro, my best punisher is mostly Charge D then U+P/2P

So that's a basic premise. If I pick Ryu in SFIII I'd play totally different...

...and Recca, why the heck would I poke with a Crouching LP?

Twelve
23-10-2005, 11:44 AM
Regarding my last post, I made a mistake, the combo is:
Standing MP (1 hit)-->QCF+MK (Do this 2 times), then Standing MPxxSA I, Jump & press P

Regardning the part on 'fear' Recca, I think you're right this can apply in a Shoto (God I hate that word) vs. Q+SA I match


BTW sorry for writing in English it's easier that way

Recca
23-10-2005, 05:05 PM
i gave an example :p of a pattern like a habit of when someone does something then usually follows it with something else, like a terry player that throws a power wave then follows it with a burn knuckle, i never played u ow would i know >.>

SALM0RE
23-10-2005, 05:59 PM
some of my friend is too slow with the super ....so when he pick iori you see he's charcater shaking before he can do the super.....and that's give me the advantge.

in 3d is diffrent .....you have to use the combo's....cuz for exmple tekken 2 hit's kill

even if you play with somone is not a good player is harder than playing againts a good player .

agent_47
23-10-2005, 07:00 PM
ااناا اقول حسب اللعبة, لكن عموما انا اسقل على خصمي ( املق , استفز , اقث )
واللاعبين اللي اختارهم في اي لعبة يكونون اغرب اللاعبين يعني مثلا
KOF: chang ,daimon , yamazaki ,choi ,haidren
SFIII3rd: oro , Q
SFEX3: dhalsim , guile ,ace من دون حركات
GGX# : putmkin , faust

ودايما استخدم الخدع والطقات بعيدة المدى
واغلب الي لعب ضدهم بغوا يطقوني ..لوووول:)

Redhead
23-10-2005, 07:36 PM
Like how everyone said, it depends on which game and who u fight against
i always try to mix up my fight with normals to specials with combos..to supers.

i can't say i have a one way of playing with all the characters.


and i hate to play against people who know JUST one damgeing combo with each character and repeat the hell out of it....e.g. most of the Kyo/Iori players :/

SALM0RE
23-10-2005, 08:12 PM
احسن شيء اذا تاخذ شخصية غير مشهورة او محد ياخذها مثل blanka , e.honda . chang و اقولون ليش ماخذ هذة الشخصية الفاشلة .... وبعدين ابهدل عيشتهم :D .


الصراحة انه استسلم اذا احد يلعب معاي بangel ......هذة البنت جحيم بالنسبة لي ....


i get my ass kicked everytime someone challenge me with angel...but when i play with k dash or robert .... hao sho hu ken !!!!!!!l

when i play againts someone for the first time i always choose character like geese ,seth,mary for there counter move ;) they don't know what's hit him......oh wait they know :p l

Redhead
23-10-2005, 08:41 PM
I can never play with Kyo/Iori/K'...i don't even know how to use them

for the counter/defence play...i'd pick Kasumi...i'm SO glad she's back in XI

to annoy people, i'll pick Malin/Angel....or the 03 version Hinako
and the 2002 Athena can be a annoying to fight against

I wanna improve my play with Shermie..specially in ngbc...she's different from her kof version btw!

Recca
24-10-2005, 01:31 AM
lol talking about Kyo and Iori reminded me of KOF98 days, i remember we had a special way of counting the Guard Crush & Dizzy meter since they werent apparent, which was...PIZZA XD ok here's the way :

let's say ur using Kyo, Imagine a 6 slice Pizza in ur head for Guard Crush and an 8 slice pizza for dizzying, let's say u use a move like R.E.D kick, that move is greedy it eats a slice and a half of pizza '-' so u remove that from the Guard Crush pizza if blocked and remove 1.5 from the dizzy pizza as well, with this kind of technique u will be able to use Kyo's HCB+D's first hit to guard crush and the second to hit the oppoent and make them go "HOLY!!!" it's so much fun when u well : im gonna crush ur guard now, then after they fall u just hit the taunt because ur 100% sure he is dizzied XD gone are those days...lol

SALM0RE
24-10-2005, 01:58 AM
recca your technic made me hungry :p i hate when someone uses the garud crush move's or the unblockable move like's clark grapple move :12: acutly one of my friend uses a very unic technic ...cigrate....ya cigrate....he play on the right side and he hold the cigrate in his left hand finger and the smoke is choking me .....and he know that i don't smoke.....so he kep smokin on porpes....sucker :vereymad:

Recca
24-10-2005, 02:33 AM
LOL just like super Hadeed he used to choke me with his stupid Smoking smell >.> now i got used to it i became a second hand smoker >_<

btw ever heard of the "camfoulage" technique :p i dont know about other games or characters but Eddie from Guilty Gear has it, it's not a move it's just picking the same color as some of the points of the background, in some stages it will be impossible to tell which is eddie and which is the shadow :p

look at examples of trickery below
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b8/Meliah_Rage/ZatoCamfoulage.gif

the reson why i hate this tactic is it forces u to change ur playing color, my favorite one is the one chosen with X :
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b8/Meliah_Rage/fave.jpg

and also there's a weak point which is the glowing of Eddie, unlike Zato, Eddie glows from the darkest color to the lightest so he is never 100% camfoulaged

Twelve
24-10-2005, 06:41 AM
@Agent 47
Nothing wrong with using Oro & Q, in my opinion, those 2 are High tier

So Recca, back in 98 RED Kick was a good move to cause a guard crush right?

Well based on what I wrote regarding Oro, that's how I play my SFIII: Poke, counter wake-ups & make use of SAs..................there IS more though to my 'strategy', but I'm not telling

Recca
24-10-2005, 06:49 AM
Well based on what I wrote regarding Oro, that's how I play my SFIII: Poke, counter wake-ups & make use of SAs..................there IS more though to my 'strategy', but I'm not telling

this is the face of someone that would be intrested in playing Oro at the moment ~'-'~
this is the face of someone that got goose bumps after he saw oro hitting on hibiki and wont touch the old geezer again -_-;;;

guess which one im doing right now o_o

u can keep ur strategy to urself :p i wont touch the freak again :o

EX Fiend
24-10-2005, 03:30 PM
like a terry player that throws a power wave then follows it with a burn knuckle

oi
-_-


Imagine a 6 slice Pizza in ur head

oh god....and you so proud of it


just like super Hadeed he used to choke me with his stupid Smoking smell

kekekekekekekekek...man i missed him already


this is the face of someone that got goose bumps after he saw oro hitting on hibiki and wont touch the old geezer again -_-;;;

say that again :vereymad:
i think you need a new lesson my dear-_-*

:ciao:

keno da
24-10-2005, 04:47 PM
انا بحاول اعمل powers اكتر ما يمكن اذا بعرف وحسب العبة طبعا :)

Twelve
25-10-2005, 07:49 AM
this is the face of someone that would be intrested in playing Oro at the moment ~'-'~
this is the face of someone that got goose bumps after he saw oro hitting on hibiki and wont touch the old geezer again -_-;;;

guess which one im doing right now o_o

u can keep ur strategy to urself :p i wont touch the freak again :o
Lost a lot of matches vs. Oro+SA III?

Usless trivia for SFIII 3S players:
In a Twelve vs. Elena match, be the Elena player a good human one or the CPU...........Just use Standing MP & Super when you can only do that Elena can PWN 12 better than any other character

عاشق X360
25-10-2005, 10:26 AM
شف هناك فئة كبيرة تقعد تقعد تعلق لك على حركة واحدة وتشوفه مستانس كأنه عامل انجاز

مثلا هورانج يضغط على اكس مرات عديدة ولمن تجي تضربه يتصدى وهذا اللي يسوي كذا يرفع

الضغط أما أنا من نفسي أكثف في إستعمال الكومبو وأنوع وأكون تركيبة قوية من اللكمات والركلات

والشخصيات التي ينصح فيها بالألعاب التالية:

تكن: هورانج و مارشل لاو وهيهاتشي وايدي جوردو وكازويا وكينج

كينج اوف فايتر : كي وكيو وايوري

سول كاليبر نايتمير ويوتشي متسو

أما دراجون بول فنصيحة حاول تدرس استراتيجية خصمك واستغل نقاط ضعفه

وكثف عمل الضربات القاضية ولاتنسى الكومبو

وشكرا