trenbolona
08-10-2011, 04:35 AM
معلومات المتقدم بالاستفسار :
العمر : 23 , الجنس : ذكر
الطول :177 متر
الوزن : 114 كيلوجرام
نسبة الدهون : 12
و الاستفسار كالتالي :
اولا .. اتمنى ان الموضوع ما ينمسح لان من حقي ادافع عن اللي قلته و ما كان في داعي ان الموضوع يغلق
ما علينا ندش بالهرمونات ... راح ارد على الاخ اللي غلطني في امور كثيرة في عدة نقاط
النقطة الاولى
الاسترات القصيرة تشتغل طول ما نت على الكورس ... السبب في تصميع المنشطات مرتبطة باستر طويل لتفادي كثرة الضربات في فنرة زمنية قصيرة .. خاصة ان المنشطات مثل التست تستخدم لمعالجة رجال فقدوا الامكانية على انتاج التست ... هذا يسمونه hormone replacement therapy >> عشان ما يضطر المريض ان يضرب الهرمون يوم و ترك .. ابتكرروا الاسترات الطويلة .. الفرق الوحيد بين الاستر الطويل و القصير هو المدة اللي يكون نشظ فيها بالدم
التست هو تست هو تست ... يعمل سواء كان متصل باستر طويل او قصير و انا مادري من وين جبت ان الاستر القصير ما يعمل بعد الاسبوع السادس ... جيب دليلك ... اذا مو مقتنع انا اجيبلك ادلة مو دليل
النقطة الثانية
جرعة البريمو
اقتباسات من اشهر مواقع المنشطات الانجليزية : )
Primobolan is an anabolic steroid which became very popular once it was claimed that it was one of Arnold’s favorites. I’m not really sure why this is, or how likely it is that Arnold went around telling everyone’s favorite steroid- but nonetheless, this rumor has persisted through the years.
When we take a critical look at it, in terms of its anabolic and androgenic rating, it appears to be a pretty weak steroid but is rated as stronger than Masteron (Drostanolone)! I’ve used both steroids and can tell you that not too many people would claim that those ratings provide an accurate idea of those two steroids compare to each other. In truth, I used Primobolan at 400mgs/week and wasn’t very impressed with it, and honestly, for the money, that’s really disappointing, since Primobolan is not inexpensive. I also would speculate that the reason many (male) Primobolan users have been less than thrilled with results from it is that they failed to use high enough doses. If I were to use it again (which I won’t), I would probably use 100mgs/ED (Every Day).
http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Primobolan-Methenolone.html
Primobolan is one of those anabolic steroids which has a cult following not unlike the old original version of Masteron. Actually, as you can easily see from its anabolic:androgenic ratio below in the profile, its a pretty weak steroid but actually stronger(!) than Masteron in both regards. I dont know anyone who has run both compounds at the same dose. We are probably justified in speculating that youd probably get similar results from either of them, when you consider the fact that you are getting quite a bit less actual drug and more ester when you choose injectable Primobolan (which has the very long Enanthate ester attached to it) over Masteron (which has the very short propionate ester attached to it). In truth, I think part of the reason many Primobolan users have been disappointed is that they failed to use enough of it, for long enough. From its chemical structure and anabolic:androgenic rating, we can assume it is at least as effective as Masteron, on an equal Mg for mg basis. However, due to its ester (in the injectable version), it needs to be run for at least 12 weeks to see the full benefits from it. When you consider a measly dose of 400mgs of this stuff for 12 weeks will probably cost you around $500.
Read more: http://www.steroid.com/Primobolan.php#ixzz1a9BMHt99
Although Primo is a quality steroid, as said it is rather week. Also due to the fact that it contains (in injectable form) an enanthate ester, anything under 400mg per week is rather a pointless use of Primo and a waste of money. Generally with AS, more does not always mean better (due to side-effects and other issues), however in the case of Primo more does definitely equal better. If stacking Primo with testosterone, 400-800mg per week will be an effective dose, with obviously the higher doses being the most effective. Primo will have two main effects in such a stack. Firstly it will seem to amplify the effects of test, so 500mg of test enanthate may seem like 750mg or more. Secondly, Primo is very forgiving with one's diet. Quality muscle can still be obtained at a steady rate even with one's diet being off from time to time. However, with a spot-on diet, Primo and test will work wonders.
For those who would want to use Primo on its own or without test, you would really need to use a minimum of 600-800mg per week. If you can afford it, 1000mg per week of Primo will highly reward the user. Some people often ask about using Primo with Trenbolone. This can be done, however without test one must realise that you are likely to be quite shut down, and it is likely you would need some sex medicines as well as HCG. Despite this, for those that want a test-less cycle, Primo and Tren is a great cutting cycle. My ultimate cutting cycle however is one that incorporates Primo, Test Prop and Tren Acetate. Another very good cutting cycle that is test-free would be Primo (600-1000mg per week) with Anavar (60-80mg per day).
Read more at: http://articles.muscletalk.co.uk/article-primobolan.aspx
Primobolan dosages are a lot higher in steroid communities today, then they were a decade or two ago. When steroid cycle dosages were quite low, 200-300mgs of Primobolan a week was a popular recommendation. However, today, the bare minimum, as per steroid and bodybuilding forums, is 400mgs, and many will even say 600mgs per week, to see results. Not only to see results, but many people will recommend the high dosage because Primobolan has very minimal side effects. Aside from the high dosages, most experienced users will say it is okay to stay on that Primobolan dosages for over 8 weeks.
Now because Primobolan is a fairly mild steroid, which gives fairly mild results, most experienced steroid users will recommend stacking Primobolan with another one or two steroids. As mentioned in the Primobolan Cycle page, most users recommend taking testosterone as a base steroid in any cycle, not only with Primobolan. If bulking, an oral steroid like Dianabol could be added, and if cutting, trenbolone acetate or Winstrol (stanozolol) could be included
السبب في الجرعات العالية للبريمو هو ان منشط ضعييف جدا .. لاي درجة .. لدرجة ان النساء يستخدمونه في كورساتهم بالجرعى اللي ذكرتها 200 مح
النقطة الثالثة ان الكلوميد هرمون .. ما هو الهرمون اصلا ؟
Hormone: A chemical substance produced in the body that controls and regulates the activity of certain cells or organs.
Many hormones are secreted by specialized glands such as the thyroid gland. Hormones are essential for every activity of daily living, including the processes of digestion, metabolism, growth, reproduction, and mood control. Many hormones, such
as the neurotransmitters, are active in more than one physical process.
http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=3783
A hormone (from Greek ὁρμή "impetus") is a chemical released by a cell or a gland in one part of the body that sends out messages that affect cells in other parts of the organism. Only a small amount of hormone is required to alter cell metabolism. In essence, it is a chemical messenger that transports a signal from one cell to another
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone
الهرمون هي مركبات كيميائية تصنف في جسم الانسان او الكائن الحي بشكل عام .. هل الكلوميد يصنع في جسم الانسان ؟؟
النقظة الرابعة ان النولفادكس اقوى من الكلوميد ... من قال لك ان مقياس القوة بالكمية ... انا ارى مقياس القوة من منظور طر يقة عمل العقار : )
النقطة الخامسة ... الاكوابويز لمدة 16 اسبوع و الدكا في السستانون
Most likely due to it’s long ester, most athletes and bodybuilders who have used Eq typically report something of a slow and constant buildup of quality muscle, rather than quick, watery gains. Typically, people use this compound for at least 10 weeks of a cycle, and 12 is often preferred as the weight and strength gains often come very slowly from EQ.
Lately, much shorter estered versions of Boldenone have become available from several underground labs. Since the ester takes up a good deal of “space” in actual oil, the real advantage to this is that there will be a more rapid build up of strength and weight, and less of a waiting period to see results. Boldenone Propionate and Boldenone without an ester (typically referred to as “BNE”) are both available, and I’ve experimented with the latter and found it to actually be very comparable to Masteron in the sense of gaining hardness and strength without much if any water or weight gain.
Equipoise is usually injected at a dose of between 400 and 600 mgs every week, but more than that would seem to not produce any additional benefits according to most experienced users.
Athletes taking Equipoise often report a slow and constant buildup of quality muscle, and certainly this has been my experience with the drug. I would speculate that this slow buildup of muscle is due to the very long ester attached to the Boldenone; Undeclynate is a longer ester than the decanoate ester by one carbon. Thus, we could expect the accumulation of muscle from Equipoise to actually occur at a slightly slower rate than that found with Deca (nandrolone decanoate). This leads me to advise that if you are considering the use of Equipoise, you should consider using it for no less than 12 weeks. Equipoise, like deca, is also detectable in your system for a long time (although it is substantially less than decas detection time).
Read more: http://www.steroid.com/Equipoise.php#ixzz1a9GAM147
Equipoise is a steroid compound that can give users slow but steady gains during a cycle. It is also relatively safe with very few reports of the side effects caused by testosterone conversion into estrogen. For bodybuilders, it should be used with some testosterone as Equipoise can cause sexual dysfunction. Equipoise’s long-lasting ester means it should be used for a minimum 12-week cycle.
http://www.steroidology.com/equipoise-boldenone-undecylenate/
بالنسبة للدكا في السستانون .. الموضوع اللي دايما يخطا العموم فييه
الدكا ديرابولين و هي مركب الناندرولون متصل بالاستر ديكانويت .. و اطلق عليه اسم دكة اختصارار بسبب الاسنر حتى اصبح الجميع يقول دكا و لا نجد احد يقول ناندرولون
Deca-Durabolin ("Deca") is actually the brand name for Organons version of the compound Nandrolone Decanoate. Deca-Durabolin is a 19-Nor compound (some would say that it is the 19-nor compound), and as such, it shares basically the same characteristics with all of them. One thing unique to Deca, above nearly all steroids, is the mystique it has had for the last quarter of a century. On a personal level, Ive included Deca in cycles at doses ranging from 100mgs/week to 2,000mgs per week. Suffice to say, I have my fair share of experience with Deca-Durabolin. This drug was regarded very highly by Dan Duchaine in his Underground Steroid Handbooks as well as many of his later writings. For many, this was and is the final word on Deca. Lets delve into some of the reasons that Decas mystique may be well deserved.
Read more: http://www.steroid.com/Deca-Durabolin.php#ixzz1a9HXkCmr
لاحظ ان المنشظ اسمه ناندرولون و ما الدكة الا الاستر المتصل فيه
نرجع للسستانون ؟؟ السستانون هو خليط من التست مختلف الاسترات
stanon 250
Chemical Name: (Testosterone Blend)
Drug Class: Injectable Anabolic Steroid
1 milliliter of Sustanon 250 Contains:
30 mgs Testosterone Propionate
60mgs testosterone Phenylpropionate
60mgs testosterone Isocaproate
100mgs testosterone Decanoate -100 mg
http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Sustanon%20250.html
تلاحظ ان السستانون هو عبارة تست فقط و لكم باربع استرات مختلفة للتست
..لاحظ اخر استر هو تستسترون ديكانويت ... و هو متصل بالتست و ليس منشط الناندرولون اللي نقول عنه دكا
جميع الاسترات في السستانون متصلة بالتست .. لو تلاحظ يسمونه سستانون 250 .. و السبب اجمع كمية التست لكل استر و تعرف السبب
الخلاصة السستانون مركب يحتوي على التست فقط ... فالتيت ديكانويت هو نفسه تست سيبونيت او تست بروبينيت
الا ان عمر الاستر اطول باسبوع فعمره مساوي لعمر الدكا في الناندرولون لان نفس الاستر
النقطة الاخيرة .. قلت ان المحترفين لو كانو يعتمدون عالدكا بدل التست لكانو فيلة من كثر الماء
طيب
Deca-Durabolin Side Effects
Many members of Steroid.com also complain of water-retention with this drug, and again, Im inclined to agree. Letrozole seems to be a preferred choice to combat this, and its my favorite for this use. This water retention would seem to make Deca-Durabolin more suitable for bulking rather than cutting, although it can be successfully used for either.
Read more: http://www.steroid.com/Deca-Durabolin.php#ixzz1a9K1Efw7
http://www.silownia.net/steroids/deca_durabolin
ادخل الرابط اللي فوق لو سمحت و اقرا اول فقرة
lمن اللي فوق تكتشف ان في عقاثير تقدر تاخذها عشان تمنع احتباس الماي الناتج من استخدام الدكا كما الحال في الارمكدس من التست
و عموما التست يخلي الجسم يحتبس الماي اكثر من الدكا خاصة اذا كان عمره طويل .. و حسب منطقك فان المحرتفين يستخدمون استرات طويلة من حيث ان الاسترات القصيرة لا تعمل اكثر من 6 اسابيع .. فهل تشوفهم فيلة من كثرة الماء
اسف على الاطالة و لكن من واجبي ارد على كل نقطة ذكرتها .. و اسف على التاخير في الرد لانشغالي بالسفر الى ايرلندا ..
العمر : 23 , الجنس : ذكر
الطول :177 متر
الوزن : 114 كيلوجرام
نسبة الدهون : 12
و الاستفسار كالتالي :
اولا .. اتمنى ان الموضوع ما ينمسح لان من حقي ادافع عن اللي قلته و ما كان في داعي ان الموضوع يغلق
ما علينا ندش بالهرمونات ... راح ارد على الاخ اللي غلطني في امور كثيرة في عدة نقاط
النقطة الاولى
الاسترات القصيرة تشتغل طول ما نت على الكورس ... السبب في تصميع المنشطات مرتبطة باستر طويل لتفادي كثرة الضربات في فنرة زمنية قصيرة .. خاصة ان المنشطات مثل التست تستخدم لمعالجة رجال فقدوا الامكانية على انتاج التست ... هذا يسمونه hormone replacement therapy >> عشان ما يضطر المريض ان يضرب الهرمون يوم و ترك .. ابتكرروا الاسترات الطويلة .. الفرق الوحيد بين الاستر الطويل و القصير هو المدة اللي يكون نشظ فيها بالدم
التست هو تست هو تست ... يعمل سواء كان متصل باستر طويل او قصير و انا مادري من وين جبت ان الاستر القصير ما يعمل بعد الاسبوع السادس ... جيب دليلك ... اذا مو مقتنع انا اجيبلك ادلة مو دليل
النقطة الثانية
جرعة البريمو
اقتباسات من اشهر مواقع المنشطات الانجليزية : )
Primobolan is an anabolic steroid which became very popular once it was claimed that it was one of Arnold’s favorites. I’m not really sure why this is, or how likely it is that Arnold went around telling everyone’s favorite steroid- but nonetheless, this rumor has persisted through the years.
When we take a critical look at it, in terms of its anabolic and androgenic rating, it appears to be a pretty weak steroid but is rated as stronger than Masteron (Drostanolone)! I’ve used both steroids and can tell you that not too many people would claim that those ratings provide an accurate idea of those two steroids compare to each other. In truth, I used Primobolan at 400mgs/week and wasn’t very impressed with it, and honestly, for the money, that’s really disappointing, since Primobolan is not inexpensive. I also would speculate that the reason many (male) Primobolan users have been less than thrilled with results from it is that they failed to use high enough doses. If I were to use it again (which I won’t), I would probably use 100mgs/ED (Every Day).
http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Primobolan-Methenolone.html
Primobolan is one of those anabolic steroids which has a cult following not unlike the old original version of Masteron. Actually, as you can easily see from its anabolic:androgenic ratio below in the profile, its a pretty weak steroid but actually stronger(!) than Masteron in both regards. I dont know anyone who has run both compounds at the same dose. We are probably justified in speculating that youd probably get similar results from either of them, when you consider the fact that you are getting quite a bit less actual drug and more ester when you choose injectable Primobolan (which has the very long Enanthate ester attached to it) over Masteron (which has the very short propionate ester attached to it). In truth, I think part of the reason many Primobolan users have been disappointed is that they failed to use enough of it, for long enough. From its chemical structure and anabolic:androgenic rating, we can assume it is at least as effective as Masteron, on an equal Mg for mg basis. However, due to its ester (in the injectable version), it needs to be run for at least 12 weeks to see the full benefits from it. When you consider a measly dose of 400mgs of this stuff for 12 weeks will probably cost you around $500.
Read more: http://www.steroid.com/Primobolan.php#ixzz1a9BMHt99
Although Primo is a quality steroid, as said it is rather week. Also due to the fact that it contains (in injectable form) an enanthate ester, anything under 400mg per week is rather a pointless use of Primo and a waste of money. Generally with AS, more does not always mean better (due to side-effects and other issues), however in the case of Primo more does definitely equal better. If stacking Primo with testosterone, 400-800mg per week will be an effective dose, with obviously the higher doses being the most effective. Primo will have two main effects in such a stack. Firstly it will seem to amplify the effects of test, so 500mg of test enanthate may seem like 750mg or more. Secondly, Primo is very forgiving with one's diet. Quality muscle can still be obtained at a steady rate even with one's diet being off from time to time. However, with a spot-on diet, Primo and test will work wonders.
For those who would want to use Primo on its own or without test, you would really need to use a minimum of 600-800mg per week. If you can afford it, 1000mg per week of Primo will highly reward the user. Some people often ask about using Primo with Trenbolone. This can be done, however without test one must realise that you are likely to be quite shut down, and it is likely you would need some sex medicines as well as HCG. Despite this, for those that want a test-less cycle, Primo and Tren is a great cutting cycle. My ultimate cutting cycle however is one that incorporates Primo, Test Prop and Tren Acetate. Another very good cutting cycle that is test-free would be Primo (600-1000mg per week) with Anavar (60-80mg per day).
Read more at: http://articles.muscletalk.co.uk/article-primobolan.aspx
Primobolan dosages are a lot higher in steroid communities today, then they were a decade or two ago. When steroid cycle dosages were quite low, 200-300mgs of Primobolan a week was a popular recommendation. However, today, the bare minimum, as per steroid and bodybuilding forums, is 400mgs, and many will even say 600mgs per week, to see results. Not only to see results, but many people will recommend the high dosage because Primobolan has very minimal side effects. Aside from the high dosages, most experienced users will say it is okay to stay on that Primobolan dosages for over 8 weeks.
Now because Primobolan is a fairly mild steroid, which gives fairly mild results, most experienced steroid users will recommend stacking Primobolan with another one or two steroids. As mentioned in the Primobolan Cycle page, most users recommend taking testosterone as a base steroid in any cycle, not only with Primobolan. If bulking, an oral steroid like Dianabol could be added, and if cutting, trenbolone acetate or Winstrol (stanozolol) could be included
السبب في الجرعات العالية للبريمو هو ان منشط ضعييف جدا .. لاي درجة .. لدرجة ان النساء يستخدمونه في كورساتهم بالجرعى اللي ذكرتها 200 مح
النقطة الثالثة ان الكلوميد هرمون .. ما هو الهرمون اصلا ؟
Hormone: A chemical substance produced in the body that controls and regulates the activity of certain cells or organs.
Many hormones are secreted by specialized glands such as the thyroid gland. Hormones are essential for every activity of daily living, including the processes of digestion, metabolism, growth, reproduction, and mood control. Many hormones, such
as the neurotransmitters, are active in more than one physical process.
http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=3783
A hormone (from Greek ὁρμή "impetus") is a chemical released by a cell or a gland in one part of the body that sends out messages that affect cells in other parts of the organism. Only a small amount of hormone is required to alter cell metabolism. In essence, it is a chemical messenger that transports a signal from one cell to another
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone
الهرمون هي مركبات كيميائية تصنف في جسم الانسان او الكائن الحي بشكل عام .. هل الكلوميد يصنع في جسم الانسان ؟؟
النقظة الرابعة ان النولفادكس اقوى من الكلوميد ... من قال لك ان مقياس القوة بالكمية ... انا ارى مقياس القوة من منظور طر يقة عمل العقار : )
النقطة الخامسة ... الاكوابويز لمدة 16 اسبوع و الدكا في السستانون
Most likely due to it’s long ester, most athletes and bodybuilders who have used Eq typically report something of a slow and constant buildup of quality muscle, rather than quick, watery gains. Typically, people use this compound for at least 10 weeks of a cycle, and 12 is often preferred as the weight and strength gains often come very slowly from EQ.
Lately, much shorter estered versions of Boldenone have become available from several underground labs. Since the ester takes up a good deal of “space” in actual oil, the real advantage to this is that there will be a more rapid build up of strength and weight, and less of a waiting period to see results. Boldenone Propionate and Boldenone without an ester (typically referred to as “BNE”) are both available, and I’ve experimented with the latter and found it to actually be very comparable to Masteron in the sense of gaining hardness and strength without much if any water or weight gain.
Equipoise is usually injected at a dose of between 400 and 600 mgs every week, but more than that would seem to not produce any additional benefits according to most experienced users.
Athletes taking Equipoise often report a slow and constant buildup of quality muscle, and certainly this has been my experience with the drug. I would speculate that this slow buildup of muscle is due to the very long ester attached to the Boldenone; Undeclynate is a longer ester than the decanoate ester by one carbon. Thus, we could expect the accumulation of muscle from Equipoise to actually occur at a slightly slower rate than that found with Deca (nandrolone decanoate). This leads me to advise that if you are considering the use of Equipoise, you should consider using it for no less than 12 weeks. Equipoise, like deca, is also detectable in your system for a long time (although it is substantially less than decas detection time).
Read more: http://www.steroid.com/Equipoise.php#ixzz1a9GAM147
Equipoise is a steroid compound that can give users slow but steady gains during a cycle. It is also relatively safe with very few reports of the side effects caused by testosterone conversion into estrogen. For bodybuilders, it should be used with some testosterone as Equipoise can cause sexual dysfunction. Equipoise’s long-lasting ester means it should be used for a minimum 12-week cycle.
http://www.steroidology.com/equipoise-boldenone-undecylenate/
بالنسبة للدكا في السستانون .. الموضوع اللي دايما يخطا العموم فييه
الدكا ديرابولين و هي مركب الناندرولون متصل بالاستر ديكانويت .. و اطلق عليه اسم دكة اختصارار بسبب الاسنر حتى اصبح الجميع يقول دكا و لا نجد احد يقول ناندرولون
Deca-Durabolin ("Deca") is actually the brand name for Organons version of the compound Nandrolone Decanoate. Deca-Durabolin is a 19-Nor compound (some would say that it is the 19-nor compound), and as such, it shares basically the same characteristics with all of them. One thing unique to Deca, above nearly all steroids, is the mystique it has had for the last quarter of a century. On a personal level, Ive included Deca in cycles at doses ranging from 100mgs/week to 2,000mgs per week. Suffice to say, I have my fair share of experience with Deca-Durabolin. This drug was regarded very highly by Dan Duchaine in his Underground Steroid Handbooks as well as many of his later writings. For many, this was and is the final word on Deca. Lets delve into some of the reasons that Decas mystique may be well deserved.
Read more: http://www.steroid.com/Deca-Durabolin.php#ixzz1a9HXkCmr
لاحظ ان المنشظ اسمه ناندرولون و ما الدكة الا الاستر المتصل فيه
نرجع للسستانون ؟؟ السستانون هو خليط من التست مختلف الاسترات
stanon 250
Chemical Name: (Testosterone Blend)
Drug Class: Injectable Anabolic Steroid
1 milliliter of Sustanon 250 Contains:
30 mgs Testosterone Propionate
60mgs testosterone Phenylpropionate
60mgs testosterone Isocaproate
100mgs testosterone Decanoate -100 mg
http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Sustanon%20250.html
تلاحظ ان السستانون هو عبارة تست فقط و لكم باربع استرات مختلفة للتست
..لاحظ اخر استر هو تستسترون ديكانويت ... و هو متصل بالتست و ليس منشط الناندرولون اللي نقول عنه دكا
جميع الاسترات في السستانون متصلة بالتست .. لو تلاحظ يسمونه سستانون 250 .. و السبب اجمع كمية التست لكل استر و تعرف السبب
الخلاصة السستانون مركب يحتوي على التست فقط ... فالتيت ديكانويت هو نفسه تست سيبونيت او تست بروبينيت
الا ان عمر الاستر اطول باسبوع فعمره مساوي لعمر الدكا في الناندرولون لان نفس الاستر
النقطة الاخيرة .. قلت ان المحترفين لو كانو يعتمدون عالدكا بدل التست لكانو فيلة من كثر الماء
طيب
Deca-Durabolin Side Effects
Many members of Steroid.com also complain of water-retention with this drug, and again, Im inclined to agree. Letrozole seems to be a preferred choice to combat this, and its my favorite for this use. This water retention would seem to make Deca-Durabolin more suitable for bulking rather than cutting, although it can be successfully used for either.
Read more: http://www.steroid.com/Deca-Durabolin.php#ixzz1a9K1Efw7
http://www.silownia.net/steroids/deca_durabolin
ادخل الرابط اللي فوق لو سمحت و اقرا اول فقرة
lمن اللي فوق تكتشف ان في عقاثير تقدر تاخذها عشان تمنع احتباس الماي الناتج من استخدام الدكا كما الحال في الارمكدس من التست
و عموما التست يخلي الجسم يحتبس الماي اكثر من الدكا خاصة اذا كان عمره طويل .. و حسب منطقك فان المحرتفين يستخدمون استرات طويلة من حيث ان الاسترات القصيرة لا تعمل اكثر من 6 اسابيع .. فهل تشوفهم فيلة من كثرة الماء
اسف على الاطالة و لكن من واجبي ارد على كل نقطة ذكرتها .. و اسف على التاخير في الرد لانشغالي بالسفر الى ايرلندا ..