نسخة الـ PS3 من Oblivion افضل من نسخة الـ Xbox360 من ناحية الجرافكس والفريم ريت

السلام عليكم
الخبر المدمر لمقالة ign الغبية بقوة
هذه واحد اجنبي تكلم عن الx360 والps3
Xbox 360 has 3 3.2Ghz CPUs, each with two threads. 3x2=6. PS3 only has one CPU, with only two threads. Xbox 360 launch games used Pre-Alpha kits; that’s why V-Sync problems weren’t corrected in some rushed launch games. Those pre-alpha kits only allowed developers to have access to ONE of CPUs, and only ONE of the two threads on that CPU!
Xbox 360 and PS3 both received Final Version Development Kits in Summer of 06. Those gave developers access to 100% of available CPU power. This means PS3 launch games had access to Final Development Kits for 6 MONTHS!
PS3 had its launch delayed BIGTIME, which helped developers with Final Development kits, but Xbox 360 had its launch rushed, which only gave developers access to the Pre-Alpha kits. Even after that, the Xbox 360 developers still were using Pre-Alpha development kits until the summer of 2006.
Xbox 360 saw such a HUGE improvement when games like Gears of War were released after Summer 06; they had access to the Final Development kit for the same amount of time as the PS3 games did.
Any developer who now has a Final Development kit now has the ability to make a game with no V-Sync problem.وشكراً

على فكره المقال ليس لى IGN فقط بل موقع Gamespot قال نفس الكلام وموقع اخر نسيت اسمه

وانت ماشاء الله عليك ياخونا xbox444 متمسك بكلام هالأجنبي بقوة حطيته في موضوعين ... لو انك تروح لمنتديات اجنبيه راح تلاقي المئات منهم يقولون العكس , وش معروف ان معالج الـ Cell هو الاقوى ولكن جهاز Microsoft لايستهان به ايضا...

والسلام عليكم.....

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة The Deadly Shadow

على فكره المقال ليس لى IGN فقط بل موقع Gamespot قال نفس الكلام وموقع اخر نسيت اسمه

وانت ماشاء الله عليك ياخونا xbox444 متمسك بكلام هالأجنبي بقوة حطيته في موضوعين ... لو انك تروح لمنتديات اجنبيه راح تلاقي المئات منهم يقولون العكس , وش معروف ان معالج الـ Cell هو الاقوى ولكن جهاز Microsoft لايستهان به ايضا...

والسلام عليكم.....

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السلام عليكم
يااخي العزيز اعتبر ردك غير منطقي واعتبره ناقص مع الاسف
مين الي قالك ان معالج الps3 هوه الاقوى معروف ان معالج السل وحيد انوات ذوخيطين فقط ومعروف الن معالج الx360 ذو3انوية و6خيوط وين العدل في ردك انا عارف انسوني قالة اشياء كلاها كذب عن المعالج حقها وفي الاخير طلع معالج واحد فقط وهذه كلن يعرفه في اعتقادي منمستوى الاجانب وليس العرب :33: وانا اسف على كل مابدرمني وشكراً

اخوي مافيه داعي تتأسف انا اللي اسف اذا كان ردي قاسي او ماشابة , لكن هل تعلم ان معالج الـ 8 Cores ? وأعتذر ان كان ردي في اٍسائه لك او لشخص اخر

والسلام عليكم....

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة The Deadly Shadow

اخوي مافيه داعي تتأسف انا اللي اسف اذا كان ردي قاسي او ماشابة , لكن هل تعلم ان معالج الـ 8 Cores ? وأعتذر ان كان ردي في اٍسائه لك او لشخص اخر

والسلام عليكم....

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اخي الى في البلاي ستيشن 3 ليست core (انويه) الى في البلاي ستيشن 3 معالج رئيسي واحد و 7 SPE وحدات معالجه فرعيه او مساعده تقوم بعمليات معينه مثل العمليات الحسابيه ومعالجة الفديو والصوت وغيره

بينما الاكس 360 يحتوي على ثلاث انويه

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة fhad2008

اخي الى في البلاي ستيشن 3 ليست core (انويه) الى في البلاي ستيشن 3 معالج رئيسي واحد و 7 SPE وحدات معالجه فرعيه او مساعده تقوم بعمليات معينه مثل العمليات الحسابيه ومعالجة الفديو والصوت وغيره

بينما الاكس 360 يحتوي على ثلاث انويه

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اخوي بلا اللتي في معالج الـ Cell هي 8 انويه Cores وهذا الكلام متأكد منه

والسلام عليكم.....

البلاي ستيشن 3 له فقط نواتين لكن له من الوحدات الأخرى ما يجعل المعالج يعمل وكأنه 9 كورز cores او threads

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The PPE core is dual threaded and manifests in software as two independent threads of execution while each active SPE manifests as a single thread. In the PlayStation 3 configuration as described by Sony, the Cell processor provides nine independent threads of execution.

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المصدر:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_microprocessor

إذاً 9 أنوية ......هذا يجعل المعالج ثوري بالنسبة لكثير من المعالجات الحالية من إنتل و AMD

:D اخوي ذا ديدلي شادو طالبك طل

ابي اخذ هالصوره من توقيعك واحطها في توقيعي ممكن ؟؟؟؟

http://xs64.xs.to/pics/06035/laellahgif6lt.gif:biggthump

اخوي مايحتاج تسأل خذها وانا اللي بكون مستانس ^^

والسلام عليكم...

السلام عليكم
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Oblivion: Downgraded for PS3, not happening on Wii

Posted Feb 10th 2007 11:30AM by Jared Rea
Filed under: Sony PlayStation 3, Nintendo Wii, Microsoft Xbox 360, Adventure, RPGs, Business
When we learned that the PS3 version of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion would not feature the majority of downloadable content found on the Xbox 360 and PC versions of the game, it was a blow to fans of horse armor everywhere. An episode of The 1UP Show (02/02) provides the follow-up hook as 1UP relays a juicy bit of info from Bethesda. As it turns out, it may be due to a memory limitation with the Playstation 3 itself.

1UP says that Bethesda simply could not find a way to load every piece of downloadable content without affecting the performance of the game. Considering that the Xbox 360 can pull off this feat without a hitch, that seems quite odd. Bethesda will still be looking into getting that content available for PS3 users, as addressed by their VP of Marketing, Peter Hines, who also comments on the "rumors" regarding the memory issue in an IGN interview.

As for the PS3 version of Oblivion trumping the 360 in the visuals department, it just so happens that the new shader techniques applied to the PS3 will also be worked into the 360 version of the game. And thus, they are equals once more. Unless you want some horse armor. In which case, you're boned.

Finally, Shacknews sat down with Pete Hines and questioned their plans beyond the PC, PS3 and Xbox 360. When it comes to waggling your remote in Oblivion, "It's not really going to run on a Wii for example, but if it could we would put it there. Our philosophy is to make a game and make it available to as many people as possible."

Read - The 1UP Show, Oblivion Expansion Preview (9:40)
Read - IGN Interview with Pete Hines
Read - Shacknews, Interview with Pete Hines

[Thanks, Stephen!]
[Update - We swapped out the Mark Rein quote with the more recent IGN interview to pull the feedback away from gritty, armchair analysis of tech specs and back into the content involved. Cleaned up some wording to not sound so definitive on a complex and unresolved issue. Thanks!] المصدر:http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/10/ob...pening-on-wii/

Oblivion لعبة حلوة حيل و ممتعة

و انا ماني فاهم ليش بعض الإخوان متعصبين يعني بفهم اذا نزلت لعبة احسن من لعبة انت بتخسر شي ؟
طبعا لأ فالكلام الفاضي ماله معنى :)
و لا تنسون احنا كلنا اخوان يعني لا تخلون جهاز و العاب تفرقنا

و انا اقول ننطر لمن اللعبة تنزل و نقارن لانه اكثر المواقع تنزل كلام و آخر شي ما يتحقق
و هذا رأيي الشخصي و موتقولون متعصب للأكس بوكس :09:

ياخوان لاتستعجلو لعبه مانزلت تاريخ صدور13\3\2007

معنى الي كتبته انه Oblivion راح تنزل على السوني بدون اضافات الي تقدر تنزلها للاكس بوكس
و الشركة ما تقدر تحط ارمور للحصان بسبب مشكلة في المومري و الشركة تدور حل لهذي المشكلة بالأخير ما كتبوا انه الأكس بوكس احسن من ps3 او العكس :أفكر:

Oblivion Rumors Explained

We get down to the bottom of the recent Oblivion rumors
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by Jeff Haynes


February 8, 2007 - When we posted our preview of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, we talked about the various improvements that had been made to the PS3 version, such as the optimized load times and enhanced graphical presentation thanks to new pixel shaders that displayed sharper details. We also pointed out that while the Knights of the Nine side quest would be included, other downloadable content would not initially be included in the game. Needless to say, this information spawned a host of rumors on the boards and across the Internet. To separate the fact from the fiction about Oblivion on the PS3, we went directly to Pete Hines, the VP of Public Relations and Marketing at Bethesda Softworks for the true details behind the game.

Rumors were rampant about the reasons behind the lack of downloadable content. Other websites have reported that the justification behind the missing missions and features was due to technical limitations of the console. According to Hines, nothing could be farther from the truth. There were two specific reasons behind why items like the Orrery and Mehrunes's Razor will not be included within the PS3 version of the game. First of all, there was a concern about the balancing of the game and initially giving players access to a thieves den or a wizard's tower immediately at the start of the game. "There was no good way to incorporate these features into the game as soon as it started because it didn't make sense," Hines said. While he didn't rule out the possibility of some of these side quests or features making it into the game, it wouldn't necessarily be as soon as the game hit store shelves.

In fact, the other reason why the downloadable content for the PS3 version of the game isn't included isn't solely because of the technical limitations of the system. Instead, it's because the designers haven't actually tested the PlayStation Network Store and the mechanisms for delivering content to systems. Considering that the development team has been spending a large amount of time making sure that the game transitions over to the PS3 well without the numerous bugs or glitches that plagued the PC and 360 versions of the game, working on the store was definitely a low priority on their list when it came to dedicating additional resources to that feature. But it is being worked on, and it will be coming at a later date.

So what about the shaders or optimizations? Rumors were released stating that everything in the PS3 version of the game would migrate over to the 360 or the PC, which kicked off a screaming match on boards about which version was ultimately better. According to Hines, the shader functionality that would re-render the low-res textures would inevitably make its way to the 360 build and PC in future updates. However, certain optimizations that take advantage of the system's hardware will remain exclusive to the PS3 version of the game.

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة hardmetal

Oblivion Rumors Explained

We get down to the bottom of the recent Oblivion rumors
.
by Jeff Haynes

February 8, 2007 - When we posted our preview of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, we talked about the various improvements that had been made to the PS3 version, such as the optimized load times and enhanced graphical presentation thanks to new pixel shaders that displayed sharper details. We also pointed out that while the Knights of the Nine side quest would be included, other downloadable content would not initially be included in the game. Needless to say, this information spawned a host of rumors on the boards and across the Internet. To separate the fact from the fiction about Oblivion on the PS3, we went directly to Pete Hines, the VP of Public Relations and Marketing at Bethesda Softworks for the true details behind the game.

Rumors were rampant about the reasons behind the lack of downloadable content. Other websites have reported that the justification behind the missing missions and features was due to technical limitations of the console. According to Hines, nothing could be farther from the truth. There were two specific reasons behind why items like the Orrery and Mehrunes's Razor will not be included within the PS3 version of the game. First of all, there was a concern about the balancing of the game and initially giving players access to a thieves den or a wizard's tower immediately at the start of the game. "There was no good way to incorporate these features into the game as soon as it started because it didn't make sense," Hines said. While he didn't rule out the possibility of some of these side quests or features making it into the game, it wouldn't necessarily be as soon as the game hit store shelves.

In fact, the other reason why the downloadable content for the PS3 version of the game isn't included isn't solely because of the technical limitations of the system. Instead, it's because the designers haven't actually tested the PlayStation Network Store and the mechanisms for delivering content to systems. Considering that the development team has been spending a large amount of time making sure that the game transitions over to the PS3 well without the numerous bugs or glitches that plagued the PC and 360 versions of the game, working on the store was definitely a low priority on their list when it came to dedicating additional resources to that feature. But it is being worked on, and it will be coming at a later date.

So what about the shaders or optimizations? Rumors were released stating that everything in the PS3 version of the game would migrate over to the 360 or the PC, which kicked off a screaming match on boards about which version was ultimately better. According to Hines, the shader functionality that would re-render the low-res textures would inevitably make its way to the 360 build and PC in future updates. However, certain optimizations that take advantage of the system's hardware will remain exclusive to the PS3 version of the game.

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السلام عليكم
يااخي الكريم احسنة في الرد الجميل وهذه الزبدة من المقالة التي انت جبتها كشاهد اثبات
النص يقول :So what about the shaders or optimizations? Rumors were released stating that everything in the PS3 version of the game would migrate over to the 360 or the PC, which kicked off a screaming match on boards about which version was ultimately better. According to Hines, the shader functionality that would re-render the low-res textures would inevitably make its way to the 360 build and PC in future updates. However, certain optimizations that take advantage of the system's hardware will remain exclusive to the PS3 version of the game.