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[Midou Ban]

Okay here it is, Nihongo no shiken : level 2

Be warned this is a higher level than before

: Off you go

Q1. 4x1points

Write the following figures in romaji or in hiragana

Most of them are a bit tricky

278

3600

100000

80000000

Q2. 4x1points

: Can you give the ~te form for the following verbs

(iku (to go

(oyogu (to swim

(hanasu (to talk / to let go

(yobu (to call

Q3. 3x3points

.Translate the following sentences to japanese

Everyday, I go to school by bus

I learn japanese from a Japanese teacher

I wish to go to Japan and make/encounter japanese friends

Q4. 5points

Here it is, the most dreadful question in a language test : the essay ! bwahahahah

Ahem...back to seriousness, for once I'm on the other side hehe...

You have finally found a Japanese penfriend and now you are carefully preparing your first letter to him/her

Can you give a few-sentence-long extract (not too long please ^^; I (hope the topic is not too broad

: The 5points repartition is as follows

2points for sentence meaningfullness

If I can see a major problem it's 0.5 off. If the sentence is too difficult for me I'll make sure I ask someone capable to tell of it

Oh and as you've guessed it, the essay needs to be at least 4 sentence long

2points for grammar/particle/verb forms

As you guess one more time, it's 4 goes at grammar before losing the (2 points (man I'm enjoying the teacher position lol

I will count points off only if I feel the error needs to be fixed

I reserve the last point for my personal appreciation (by now you (must really hate me lol

I hope I will be able to adjust the difficulty level more efficiently with further tests

Ganbatte

GTM

Great Teacher Midou

: err...sorry...back to earth

Midou Ban

[مجهول الهوية؟؟؟]

مشكوووووورين على هالموضوع بس والله والله عجزت انطق كلمة وحدة

سينيورا..........

[Tokimeki]

امتحااان ثااااني !! يااااااااااااااااااااااااي <=== لو بالواقع جان عندي عزا اليوم على العموم ميدوووووو يعطيك العافية ^^ وان بحاول احلة و ان شاء اللة اييب علامة زينة

عني ما لقيت إلا الأرقام اتحطهم اول سؤال

278
Ni Hyaku nanaju Hachi
3600
San zen ropyaku
100000
Ju man
80000000
Hapyaku man



Q2:
iku
itte
oyogu
oyoide
(hanasau
Hanashite
yobu
yonde

Q3:
Everyday, I go to school by bus
Maenichi basude gakkou e ekimasu


I learn japanese from a Japanese teacher
Nihonjin no sensei kara nihongo naratte imasu

I wish to go to Japan and make/encounter japanese friends

Nihon e itte nihonjin no tomodachi tsukuritaena

وااو اكتب رسالة !! ممممم راح اكتب شيء بسيط ^^

Konnichiwa ^__^
Ogenki desu ka ?
Atashi no namae wa Toki desu.Atashi wa kuwait jin. Hajimamashite Doozo yuroshiku kudasai . Anime ga suki
desu.Atashi wa nihon bunka ni kyomiga arimasu >

[Tokimeki]

Konnichiwa Chihiro chan ^__^
Ogenki desu ka ?
Atashi no namae wa Toki desu.Atashi wa kuwait jin. Hajimamashite Douzo yoroshiku kudasai . Anime ga suki
desu. Atashi wa nihon bunka ni kyomiga arimasu. Anata wa Doko ni sunde imasu ka? Nansai desu ka? Sorosoro shitsurei shimasu. Ja mata

Toki

Forget about the first post, I was in a harry, I didn't know what to say ^^ still this e-mail is pretty easy and simple. but this is what came to my mind ^___^

[Midou Ban]

! Ya

! Toki chan, sassuga, always in the front line for challenges, gureato

^^

Hmm from the looks of it this is going to be a good mark too let's see



: Q1

It's always a bit confusing to write in Romaji...10 should actually be written juu but I suppose this is not the problem here

("600is Roppyaku (with two "p
Good for the san zen
However the last figure was unfortunately bigger than that

lol

Remember the joke about the laid off translator

actually 80000000 is exactly hassen man

that is to say eight thousands x ten thousands

and yes it's a hidoi trap but well I can't help how the japanese count high numbers

(otherwise, it's happyaku like roppyaku with two "p" (just in case

^^

I'll only count the figure conversion since this was the point : that makes 3 points so far



: Q2

Perfect score for this one

Minnasan
The ~te form is very important in the language, many constructions and word formations come out from it

there is a trick that helps me do the conversion from the dictionary form to the ~te form

: before giving it out, some refreshing examples

Dictionary form --> ~te form

Strong verbs

iu (to say) --> itte

matsu (to wait) --> matte

naru (to become) --> natte

nomu (to drink) --> nonde

yobu (to call) --> yonde

shinu (to die) --> shinde

kiku (to listen) -->kiite

oyogu (to swim) --> oyoide

hanasu (to speak/to let go) --> hanashite



Weak verbs

neru (to sleep) --> nete

okiru (to wake up) --> okite



Irregular

kuru (to come) --> kite

iku (to go) --> itte



? huh what's all that strong/weak/irregular thingy about

Just look at the end of the dictionnary form and compare it with the other. You'll notice that the strong verbs impose a change in the -te form while the weak one only switch the "ru" to a "te" and that's it

Now you'd say hw do I recognize a weak from a strong when the end of the dictionary form is RU

Well, I guess the answer is that there like any other languages things to "know" and to learn by heart

...so ganbatte

oh yes, the trick


utsuru-tte mubunu-nde ku-ite gu-ide su-shite


oO

yep that's it, you learn that by heart or drink it like a bitter medicine you name the expression and may find your way out of most situations

? Still don't get it

the endings -u, -tsu and -ru (strong) require a -tte when switching forms

the -mu -bu and -nu require -nde

and so on

have another look at the example above, given in that order, and you'll know what I mean

^^ aiya...yes...4 points for tokichan



: Q3

Everyday, I go to school by bus
Mainichi basude gakkou e ikimasu


I learn japanese from a Japanese teacher
(Nihonjin no sensei (kara/ni) nihongo wo (naratte imasu/naraimasu

I wish to go to Japan and make/encounter japanese friends
Nihon e itte nihonjin no tomodachi wo tsukuritai desu



Underlined parts are the most significant for points distribution on the sentence, and usually they're particles and verb forms
^^
Also brackets indicate other possibilities
Tokichan, you have forgotten two "wo" which is only too common
I don't think I'll ever stop forgetting those, all the same, I'll take 1 point for each, that's e good way to remember that particle lol
^^
Your only other accountable mistake was on the wish form
(It was missing desu and na made it sound unformal (^^ it really was
I'll take only 0,5points because the unformal construction was correct

As a side note, be careful about the "i" sound transcription, which you made "e" like in english, in ikimasu, mainichi and tsukuritai

6.5points



: Q4

First thank you Toki chan for taking the exam thouroughly, I didn't really know what to put for an essay topic on this first time
: now to the commentaries

You have used both formal and unformal constructions, but as I didn't clearly specify to which to stick it will be overlooked
Which means really nothing to correct everything is fine, except that you shouldn't add a question mark after ka, this is usually found in written unformal, and that you mistyped hajimemashite
Oh and I supressed douzo yoroshiku because I think it's only after full introduction between you two, that means as long as your penfriend hadn't replyed I think you shouldn't ask her to be kind to you
^^
Please correct me if i'm wrong, onegai shimasu

Anyway here are both versions
Formal version

^__^ Konnichiwa Chihiro san

? Ogenki desu ka

Watashi no namae wa Toki desu

Watashi wa kuwaito jin desu

Hajimemashite

Anime ga suki desu

Watashi wa nihon bunka ni kyomiga arimasu

Anata wa doko ni sunde imasu ka

Nansai desu ka

Sorosoro shitsurei shimasu

Dewa mata

Toki

in opposite to the (approximate) unformal one

^__^ Konnichiwa Chihiro chan

? Genki

Atashi no namae wa Toki da

Atashi wa kuwaito jin

Hajimemashite

Anime ga suki

Atashi wa nihon bunka ni kyomiga aru

? Anata wa doko ni sunde iru

Nansai desu ka

(Sorosoro shitsurei (suru

Ja mata

Toki

(And 5 points for tokichan (see it's not that hard folks


Which gives us a total of
22/18.5

omedetou


Keep it up and everybody ganbatte
I will try to post another one in the coming week

Ja
Midou Ban