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destiny
28-05-2005, 11:26 AM
hi to all,



my today's subject is one of series topics that highlight things i dont like in forums,, specially English forums

this one is about posting topics or ideas without refering to the source ,,,, what is called in the west as " Plagiarism",

for those who dont know its meaning ,, it is defined as steeling someone's idea without referring to the source

whether u got from e mail or the internet ,,, u should refer to the source!!

what i reialized that lots of ppl dont refer to the source and what makes it worst when they accept compliments for posting somone els's ideas ,,,

how do u accept compliments for something u didnt do ??? i hate it and it pissed me off !!

wish u all share with me this and tell me ur openion

regards

المكاويه
28-05-2005, 07:24 PM
:) Hi dear brother
Nice idea to talk about

Plagiarism is really sth awful
:vereymad: most of us hate it
we of course dislike doing so
but sometimes we r prevented from saying the source
:31: coz these r the rules of this forum
even if its from ur email
u r not allowed to say so
anyway
ppl sometimes invent ways just to avoid Plagiarism
:o and i have done so
thats regarding why not to mention the sources
*****
as for accepting compliments for what we have not written
or for what we have chosen and brought
:as for that i disagree with u
:33: what if i brought sth stupid
:أفكر: r u going to thatnk me
what if i brought sth. rude or impolite
r u gonna thank me
:31: what if i chose sth that is not interesting neither funny
r u gonna thank me
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AT ALL
:o NEVER
its all about choosing sth
i have read sth
i liked it>> i have the mind to understand it
;) i brought it according to my mind
coz i have read it , understood it and chosen it
so ppl like to thank me for choosing a nice thing
for giving them the chance to read funny and beneficial subjects
:and just listen to Mr. Ahmed Elmasrawy when he said to me in my thread




finally, i'd like to thank u and should extend my thanks to the writer throgh u
keep reading. it widens our minds



:05: thats exactly my way of thinking
he is right
;) i keep reading ,, ur minds r widened
u keep reading ,, our minds r widened
coz im choosing good things not bad things
:05: therefore i would accept ur "thank u" and ur compliments happily
i reiceve lots of emails,, i choose only those incredible ones for u to read
...OK
how about reading good , interesting things and never mind sharing them with u
:33: how about this,, r u gonna learn as much
we learn from each other's ideas, thoughts and readings
:06: ??????Got my point
Anyway
thank u for discussing this with us
:ciao: see u later
and
;) no hard feelings

destiny
28-05-2005, 11:22 PM
ya hala wallah

first of all, congradulations for finishing ur exams and inshallah ur results were As

second, many thanks for ur participation and sharing with us ur openion

i agree with some of ur points and disagree with the rest
but it appeared to me that u didnt understand the whole idea ia m trying to make

u r saying
:)

but sometimes we r prevented from saying the source
:31: coz these r the rules of this forum
even if its from ur email
u r not allowed to say so
anyway



is it trure?? the regulations here or any forum prevent writers from referring or telling the readers if it was copied from an e mail or in another forum!! r u sure?? i guess there is a missunderstanding,, mentioning the source doesnt need to be detailed as it is applied in (the academic researches or papers), to make it simple for u, take this example : u could say,, i got this nice topic via e mail or u can say i found it in one of the forums and liked it very much, so i decided to share it with u ,, this is enough and it is not considered to be Plagiarism in the internet, and the reason for doing that is to tell the readers u copied or selected it but u didnt "write it by urself" ,,,,,,,,,, hopefully u got what i mean


and u r saying

as for accepting compliments for what we have not written
or for what we have chosen and brought
:as for that i disagree with u
:33: what if i brought sth stupid
:أفكر: r u going to thatnk me
what if i brought sth. rude or impolite
r u gonna thank me
:31: what if i chose sth that is not interesting neither funny
r u gonna thank me
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AT ALL
:o NEVER

Again here ,,, u r talking from different prespective which was not the point i raised, with regard to the compliment!!
what i meant is accepting compliments as being the "writer" ,,i will give u an example suppose i found poems or a story in the internet and decided to post it in the forum without mentioning it was copied or written by someone else,,, and lets suppose the story was written by a very well known writer , ,,,

when the readers read the poems or the story , they will like it and they may say wowwwwwwwwwwww good poem or good story and mashallah u r talented writer !!! in the other side, I reply thanks and that's it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! did u get what i mean??? in ur openion this attitude is acceptable? u take compliments for something u didnt write!!!

In the other side, if u are referring to the effort u made in selecting and posting, it is acceptable to recieve compliments given that "the readers know they r not origionally urs"

sorry for elaborating in my reply but i wanted to make it clear for u and for everyone here what i mean by this topic

wish u the best and full enjoyment of ur vacation :)

Riku
28-05-2005, 11:41 PM
but what about translated stuff .. do we refer to the topic from there ! .. espeshally if we translate it because the members here dont speek that language .!

but if ist coping an idea and saying that its his own .. then thats a defrent case , and this time i thinck its wrong .

one thing all if u should remember .. if you dont like somthing ! dont do it do other pepole ^_^

thank you for the topic .. and remember to correct me :P

destiny
28-05-2005, 11:57 PM
but what about translated stuffs .. do we refer to the topic from there ! .. especially if we translate it because the members here dont speek that language .!


but if it was coping an idea and saying that it was his own .. then thats a different case , and this time i think its wrong .


one thing all if u should remember .. if you dont like somthing ! dont do it do other pepole ^_^

i didnt get it

thank you for the topic .. and remember to correct me :P


7abibi Riku

thanks for passing by

ur last sentence i didnt correct cause i didnt get what u mean

correct me if i am wrong --- do u mean that, if we dont like something we shouldnt post it for the readers ???


i guess u agree with me in the points i made

take care and wish u the best

by the way i like ur way in learning

c ya

Riku
29-05-2005, 09:11 AM
correct me if i am wrong --- do u mean that, if we dont like something we shouldnt post it for the readers ???

loool .. :P .. no man .. i ment correct my mistakes
i loved your post and i agree with you and i added somthing extra by talking about the translated meteryals ^_^

i didnt get it
ok i will say it in arabic so you can anderstand my point ..
الي ماترضاه لغيرك لاترضاه لنفسك ..
so if you dont like it when others copy your work ,,, DONT copy from others ^_^ .
thank you again for the topic and for correcting me ^_^

destiny
29-05-2005, 11:00 AM
aha

ok :)

u r absolutely right brother

Another_One
29-05-2005, 11:44 AM
hi to all,


my today's subject is one of series topics that highlight things i dont like in forums,, specially English forums

this one is about posting topics or ideas without refering to the source ,,,, what is called in the west as " Plagiarism",

for those who dont know its meaning ,, it is defined as steeling someone's idea without referring to the source

whether u got from e mail or the internet ,,, u should refer to the source!!

what i reialized that lots of ppl dont refer to the source and what makes it worst when they accept compliments for posting somone els's ideas ,,,

how do u accept compliments for something u didnt do ??? i hate it and it pissed me off !!

wish u all share with me this and tell me ur openion

regards






Hi brother

i'm sorry to come late ...but it is my fate

regarding to what u said brother

it's unacceptable to copy and unwind the information u didn't make

at least ...imagine that u r the one who wrote this words

what will u feel when u see ur words under others' names

there is a way to protect ur words

when u finish ur topic ...select it all and choose quote icon

put this word

GEO

instead of

QUOTE

and

/QUOTE

this is one way to protect ur topics

;) but some people can deal with it...also ME

..........................

to whom it may concern

Before copy anything ....remember the Judgment Day

thank u brother alot